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DPMS any good?
DPMS... any good? Sportsman's Warehouse has the DPMS Oracle .223 Rem for $449.99 tomorrow with 30 rnd mag.
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Re: DPMS any good?
Here are the reviews that I found for it; 4 stars, not bad, but only 2 reviews.
Reviewed by 2 customer
Solid, reliable, affordable rifle, January 01, 2014
I've had the DPMS oracle for over 2 years now. Paid just above $600. Never once had a single issue after thousands of rounds of .223 and 5.56. I will run steel case Tulamo, cheap brass and high quality ammo without question. It chews it up and spits tight groups consistently. A bit of oil and a scrub down the barrel is all it takes every few hundred rounds for me to keep it happy. I have read a ton of crappy reviews online only to have found none of them to be true. I'm sure because of it's low price entry point it attracts the kinds of shooters who are new to guns or are cheap bastards and less adept to using, cleaning and maintaining it properly. I use it to hunt coyotes, target shooting and for home defense and have no question that when I pull the trigger it will fire until the magazine is empty. I shoot it a few times a week so it most certainly does not sit in a cabinet for the occasional range trip (I don't go to a range, I shoot from my portch). I would buy a few more, but whats the point? this one will last me for a very long time and I can only shoot one at a time. And as a plus there are tons of upgrades and accessories.
By Brad from Ashland, Va
Excellent Starter Rifle, June 01, 2013
Great AR to build up and costumize with out breaking bank. Ideal for shooting hoobiest on a budget. After a year and a half no failures to feed or eject. Added MOE stock is an improvement over Pardus stock. Aluminum quad rail, Houge grip, Nikkon P-223 CQB scope, 45 offset mini red dot, extended trigger guard, fore grip and tacticle light. All under $1,200 when finished. DPMS makes alot of parts used in other brands. While everything isn't Mil-spec, what isn't you can upgrade for a true custom rifle that exceeds.
By Rob0Bear from Indiana
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My Christmas Present is going to be an AR-Stoner M4 Upper for $279.00. So if you can get a complete DPMS rifle for just $170.00 over that, I'd say that it's a good deal.
DPMS/Panther has been around for over 30 years.
Reviewed by 2 customer
Solid, reliable, affordable rifle, January 01, 2014
I've had the DPMS oracle for over 2 years now. Paid just above $600. Never once had a single issue after thousands of rounds of .223 and 5.56. I will run steel case Tulamo, cheap brass and high quality ammo without question. It chews it up and spits tight groups consistently. A bit of oil and a scrub down the barrel is all it takes every few hundred rounds for me to keep it happy. I have read a ton of crappy reviews online only to have found none of them to be true. I'm sure because of it's low price entry point it attracts the kinds of shooters who are new to guns or are cheap bastards and less adept to using, cleaning and maintaining it properly. I use it to hunt coyotes, target shooting and for home defense and have no question that when I pull the trigger it will fire until the magazine is empty. I shoot it a few times a week so it most certainly does not sit in a cabinet for the occasional range trip (I don't go to a range, I shoot from my portch). I would buy a few more, but whats the point? this one will last me for a very long time and I can only shoot one at a time. And as a plus there are tons of upgrades and accessories.
By Brad from Ashland, Va
Excellent Starter Rifle, June 01, 2013
Great AR to build up and costumize with out breaking bank. Ideal for shooting hoobiest on a budget. After a year and a half no failures to feed or eject. Added MOE stock is an improvement over Pardus stock. Aluminum quad rail, Houge grip, Nikkon P-223 CQB scope, 45 offset mini red dot, extended trigger guard, fore grip and tacticle light. All under $1,200 when finished. DPMS makes alot of parts used in other brands. While everything isn't Mil-spec, what isn't you can upgrade for a true custom rifle that exceeds.
By Rob0Bear from Indiana
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My Christmas Present is going to be an AR-Stoner M4 Upper for $279.00. So if you can get a complete DPMS rifle for just $170.00 over that, I'd say that it's a good deal.
DPMS/Panther has been around for over 30 years.
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Re: DPMS any good?
From comments I've read people speak favorably of DPMS. If its that reliable at that price point its a steal.
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Re: DPMS any good?
Phillip Gross wrote:DPMS... any good? Sportsman's Warehouse has the DPMS Oracle .223 Rem for $449.99 tomorrow with 30 rnd mag.
Does it also accept 5.56mm
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Philip, have you checked on utube for reviews of DPMS? At that price if it is that good it has me interested.
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Re: DPMS any good?
I hope they're good. Got up at 4 am to be the first one in line. Bought them for my two older boys. Will let you know how they feel after Christmas...
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Re: DPMS any good?
i checked it out on Cheaper than Dirt it has excellent reviews there. Since they are optics ready with standard M4 heat shielded forearm what type of sights are you putting on these rifles? If its flip up peep sights you'll need aluminum one for the gas block pic rail instead of polymer. Gas block may melt polymer based peep sights. Other way around that and still use polymer peep sight is to replace the forearm with a quadrail and mount it on far end of quadrail.
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I think I'm going with the traditional carry handle rear sight with the rail mounted A2 front that also looks like the originals. While it does have a the adjustable stock, I think the sights I'm talking about will give it more of that traditional look that I think they'll dig.
I think I need to get some flip up sights for mine though too. All I have is that red/green dot 1x optic on it. If the battery ever dies at the wrong time, I'd be in a bad way...
I think I need to get some flip up sights for mine though too. All I have is that red/green dot 1x optic on it. If the battery ever dies at the wrong time, I'd be in a bad way...
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You're going for the Vietnam campaign era look!
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Yeah,... but I hesitated saying it directly for fear of Claymore responding with something to the effect of that I have no idea about anything because I was still just an itch in my daddy's pants during that time (or something like that)...
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Haha. So was I. I was born '76. It was what I have seen on NRA documentary on history of rifles. For the kids I would keep the adjustable stock and they can swap it out later if they want a more authentic look of a solid stock.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Now I've got to get busy cutting that firing range through the woods!
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Prior to the Y2K "event", I built an AR-15 for my wife. It not only had the standard carrying handle & sights, but it also had the old "pencil barrel" with the triangular handguards.
Because that's what she was familiar with.
That's right:
She completed a tour in the 2nd Armored Division before you two mutton-heads were born.
Because that's what she was familiar with.
That's right:
She completed a tour in the 2nd Armored Division before you two mutton-heads were born.
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And thank her for us!
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I bet fights were interesting at y'alls house!Claymore wrote:
She completed a tour in the 2nd Armored Division before you two mutton-heads were born.
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She was in the Fort Hood Parachute Club.
I was an FAA Certified Parachute Rigger.
I used to tell her, "Be nice, or you'll get a surprise, if you ever have to pull your Emergency Chute".
I was an FAA Certified Parachute Rigger.
I used to tell her, "Be nice, or you'll get a surprise, if you ever have to pull your Emergency Chute".
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I can only imagine her response to that! She doesn't sound like the type to sit quietly by...
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I stoked the flames yesterday afternoon with the boys for their coming gifts! They've been asking to shoot lately, which has given me a great excuse for starting to build the firing range, so yesterday I broke out my Ruger Mk III and took them down to destroy some pumpkins that my wife had used for fall decor. They were doing well shooting as usual, so I told them to be careful and I'd be right back.
I returned with my AR and three mags. Their eyes got as big as saucers at the prospect of shooting it. I set the butt stock to length they needed and let them both shoot on magazine. They were extatic, talking about how much they wanted a gun like that one day. I laughed and said "maybe one day when y'all are older". (Technically, they'll be older in a few weeks )
They actually did very well with it. Suffice it to say that while the .22 put holes in the pumpkins, the AR destroyed them.
I returned with my AR and three mags. Their eyes got as big as saucers at the prospect of shooting it. I set the butt stock to length they needed and let them both shoot on magazine. They were extatic, talking about how much they wanted a gun like that one day. I laughed and said "maybe one day when y'all are older". (Technically, they'll be older in a few weeks )
They actually did very well with it. Suffice it to say that while the .22 put holes in the pumpkins, the AR destroyed them.
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Yup and your typical AR is a .22 caliber size weapon.
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Be sure to post pics of yiu and the boys holding assault rifles by the Christmas tree on fb. No better time to piss off a liberal. Oh btw sing a few bars of "silencer night" haha
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RRCmdrBennett wrote:Be sure to post pics of yiu and the boys holding assault rifles by the Christmas tree on fb. No better time to piss off a liberal. Oh btw sing a few bars of "silencer night" haha
BAD IDEA!!
Once you post it, that stuff is out there FOREVER!
A person could have a perfectly innocent contact with someone like Faruk Sayid, the California Shooter. Maybe you had a used car listed in the paper, and he called you a couple of times about it, and the FBI found your number in his phone. They don't know what your conversations were about, but a good investigator is going to eventually check to see what your relationship (if any) is.
Good homework for a cop is to learn what he can quickly can prior to an interview with a person. All that it would take is to put before an Assistant U.S. Prosecutor the phone records linking your phone to his, copies of postings on the net showing sympathy (or even conversations) with someone making anti-government statements, and photographs of the kids all brandishing AR-15's.
That can be the difference between Federal Agents coming by for a "Knock & Talk" Interview and getting your front door bashed in with a Ram.
If agents come for a "Knock & Talk" they can sit at your kitchen table, and you can ask them to leave at any time. If they come armed with a Search Warrant, they can rifle through anything in your residence, and you can do nothing to stop it.
A really good way to upset the Wife is for her to find the contents of her underwear drawer dumped all over the bedroom floor.
I have participated in over 300 Search Warrant Entries, and I have written over 50 Search Warrant Affidavits. I know what the standard is to have a Judge sign it.
And the police don't put the stuff back into the drawers and they don't pay to replace damaged doors. (Ask me how I know.)
Oh.
And they WILL take your firearms, because those will be listed on the warrant as Targets of the Search. You may have to hire an Attorney to petition the Court to have them returned -- after they have been inscribed with a Property Number and thrown into a Pile in the Evidence Room.
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Re: DPMS any good?
I figured it was an obvious joke. So much for home of the brave and land of the free.
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Where've you been?? We're in the middle of fighting to regain all of that...
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Yes, we are. It was insert sarcasm. I'm not that naive. Ever since "they did" 9/11 we have declined so quickly into fear we are ready to embrace no fly list which may include no gun ownership as well based on mere McCarthy like suspicion.
Internment or FEMA camps would not surprise me anymore.
Internment or FEMA camps would not surprise me anymore.
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Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
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Ordered the carry handle rear sights and some rail mounted A2 front sights that mount on top of the gas block rail. Went with the Palmetto State Armory handle sights for $70/each. I didn't think the $30 jobbies would be a good buy. Read some reviews that they didn't hold a sight after several rounds through.
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