New National comander.

RRCmdrBennett wrote:

Phillip Gross wrote:I like that too. Would it be the painter's smock?

I believe that Phillip is referring to the new "Gabby" uniform shirt.

And while it can assist in hiding the big bellies of some of us older commanders, it looks enough like a French Painter's Smock, that you could put it on with a lilly-pad beret, and walk down the streets of Paris, unnoticed.

Gabby??? I haven't seen that one yet. Is it available online?

It's the current "gabardine" uniform shirt.

Designed to be worn tucked....or untucked.

A poor (and demilitarized) substitute for the old Khaki Uniform Shirt.

I have 3 of the new utility shirts. They are great shirts. They wick moisture very well. I take them on backpacks and river wear. They dry fast. I liked the Khaki shirts too. Worn the emblems and patches off of them before they wore out. The new shirts are not as hardy but "smart" because they are light and I like wearing them. The old dickies once wet stayed wet.

I liked the old style uniform the best. When I see a utility uniform shirt worn out like a missionary shirt it's just not the same. Not near the same effect regarding rules and regulations and standing to attention and all...it just doesn't bring it out like the old uniform did.

Mark Jones

Claymore wrote:It's the current "gabardine" uniform shirt.

Designed to be worn tucked....or untucked.

A poor (and demilitarized) substitute for the old Khaki Uniform Shirt.

The utility shirt isn't gabby. The gabby is a very dressy version of the old dickies khaki's shirt with a zipper front and false buttons. I have a set of gab shirt and pants as the "dress" uniform became under Marsh. 

Mark is right on all the gold points on the shirt was made to be comfortable in the outdoors. I don't like it untucked though that was my only peeve. As a boy we never wore anything outdoors except class C. The only exception was uniform inspection at pow wows we changed into Class B and changed back afterwards.

I always found it difficult to keep tucked in because of the straight cut of the bottom, and the type of material it is. I also like the shirts tucked in, so it was always an annoyance. And maybe I'm just too cheap, but I wouldn't, nor would I expect the boys to wear a $40 shirt out on hikes and other activities. I wonder how many rangers across the world actually do wear that shirt when they're out in the woods other than for a photo opp, or some official RR activity like Pow Wow. I'm talking about honest to goodness camping and backpacking trips. I'm willing to bet decent money that 99% of those shirts never see the woods. So why have an "outdoors" shirt as the uniform? Just have a uniform shirt for the uniform and then let the boys and leaders wear outdoors wear for activities (as is most likely the case in real life).

RRCmdrBennett wrote:The utility shirt isn't gabby. The gabby is a very dressy version of the old dickies khaki's shirt with a zipper front and false buttons. I have a set of gab shirt and pants as the "dress" uniform became under Marsh. 

Mark is right on all the gold points on the shirt was made to be comfortable in the outdoors. I don't like it untucked though that was my only peeve. As a boy we never wore anything outdoors except class C. The only exception was uniform inspection at pow wows we changed into Class B and changed back afterwards.

I'll stand corrected.

I recall hearing that the Khaki Uniform was being replaced by the "Gabby", and at the same time, the "Painter's Smock" Utility Shirt appeared. Also, all of the "Official" photographs of Ranger Activities that were formerly in Khakis were of Rangers wearing the Utility Shirt. This caused me to believe that the "Gabby" and the Utility Shirt were one and the same.

"Oh. I mis-spoke." (Hillary Clinton, 2016)

"What DIFFERENCE does it make?!?!?"


(Since we're using Hillary quotes now...)

Claymore wrote:

RRCmdrBennett wrote:
The utility shirt isn't gabby. The gabby is a very dressy version of the old dickies khaki's shirt with a zipper front and false buttons. I have a set of gab shirt and pants as the "dress" uniform became under Marsh. 

Mark is right on all the gold points on the shirt was made to be comfortable in the outdoors. I don't like it untucked though that was my only peeve. As a boy we never wore anything outdoors except class C. The only exception was uniform inspection at pow wows we changed into Class B and changed back afterwards.

I'll stand corrected.

I recall hearing that the Khaki Uniform was being replaced by the "Gabby", and at the same time, the "Painter's Smock" Utility Shirt appeared.  Also, all of the "Official" photographs of Ranger Activities that were formerly in Khakis were of Rangers wearing the Utility Shirt.  This caused me to believe that the "Gabby" and the Utility Shirt were one and the same.

"Oh.  I mis-spoke."  (Hillary Clinton, 2016)

That's cool. I wasn't trying to upstage you. Before Marsh gabby was class A or B same as gph or dickies khakis for those who wanted a really polished look. I have heard state police use gabby too.  
At least your gabby utility mixup didn't get 4 Americans killed 
And blame it on a video.

Phillip Gross wrote:"What DIFFERENCE does it make?!?!?"


(Since we're using Hillary quotes now...)

Difference 350,000,000 Americans (est) - 4=349,999,996.