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New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Philip, keep adding water to Jack and it loses its bite...
_________________
Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
Lima
Golf
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RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Everything needs and has some amounts of water in it to be enjoyable. A good distiller knows how much to add without ruining it. But that's the whole point. There needs to be someone at the point who knows what actually works and what doesn't, or who at least will be honest with themselves and others that the current direction isn't working as well as it was supposed to and there needs to be a change. Using this newly introduced analogy, if it gets too weak, the only remedy is to go BACK to the beginning to get the pure stuff to add to the over cut batch. You don't have to throw away the over cut batch, just add more original back into it. Simple in concept, yet that does take time. You've got to get the fire burning again...
Phillip Gross- Special Member
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Agreed. I loved having a "review" or would like to see a universal test given again but they won't do that.
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
Lima
Golf
Bravo
RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Phillip Gross wrote:You don't have to throw away the over cut batch, just add more original back into it. Simple in concept, yet that does take time. You've got to get the fire burning again...
Great Idea, but one Flaw: N.I.H. (Not Invented Here)
To go back and adopt the successful portions of R/R1.0 would be to admit that it was BETTER than what the Current Regime replaced it with.
That ain't gonna happen!
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Claymore- Special Member
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Coke went back to the original when New Coke flopped.
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
Lima
Golf
Bravo
RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
RRCmdrBennett wrote:Coke went back to the original when New Coke flopped.
And how long did it take them to do that:
...........6 years, ................14 years.........?
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"Rangers Lead the Way"
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"The last thing that I want to do is to hurt you,...................... but it's still on the list."
Claymore- Special Member
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Maybe someone will go independent and create a Royal Trail Life for fedup Royal Rangers!
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
Lima
Golf
Bravo
RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
I think the new Christian version of Trail life has that covered. I have always said once Rangers is no longer resembling a Church Boyscout group I will go join the Christian boyscouts. Right now I can still do a Church boyscouting group. So I will stay for now.'
Mark Jones
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RRCmdrBennett wrote:Maybe someone will go independent and create a Royal Trail Life for fedup Royal Rangers!
Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
I have to submidt a letter to our Chapter to get signed and go up the channel to allow the Ranger Outposts to still use the past merit system. We have a lot of outposts that don't go the GMA track. So this option will allow us to quickly train the boys and get them into FCF like in the past.
Mark Jones
Mark Jones
Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
So with this new system what is FCF?
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
Lima
Golf
Bravo
RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
I am hoping in 6 months from now they put it back like it was and tell the change folks to keep their grubby no camping hands off the program.
Oh how I rejoice in that day!
Mark Jones
Oh how I rejoice in that day!
Mark Jones
Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Friends LifelongServantLeaders Fellowship. A quazi mix of Mpact/Sundayschool and Rick Warren. The won't camp. Just hang out and talk of the old days when folks did. GRIN! Yup I had to poke and jab at the golden calf. Sometimes a good idea seems right...when down deep we ALL KNOW It's Wrong... they just got caught up in the moment. GRIN!
Mark Jones
p.s. We all have made some really stupid moves. I have for sure.
RRCmdrBennett wrote:So with this new system what is FCF?
Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
David Boyd (national BGMC guy) was at my district's council this week. After he was done with a children's leadership class, I took the opportunity for a quiet one-on-one. Since there is a Ranger Summit next month, I said it was highly likely that more changes were on the way. Told him to please take a message back to Springfield: "Commanders in the field are willing to put up with yet another round of changes, but this time, they've got to get it right." Without any prompting, he started talking about how changes in other programs led to some of the decreases in RR numbers. Seems they're a little sensitive there.
joecool- VIP Member
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
Sounds like "OrangerCare".
The decrease in Rangers is caused by other ministries.
(aka "It's Bush's Fault".)
The decrease in Rangers is caused by other ministries.
(aka "It's Bush's Fault".)
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Claymore- Special Member
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Re: New FCF Handbook and Advancement.
In all seriousness:
The First Step to Recovery is:
"Admit that you have a Problem."
The First Step to Recovery is:
"Admit that you have a Problem."
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"Rangers Lead the Way"
18Z, 11B4X
"The last thing that I want to do is to hurt you,...................... but it's still on the list."
Claymore- Special Member
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Location : Northern Mississippi
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