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Post by strods May 27th 2013, 9:31 pm

Okay, so based on some prior comments about looking to get back to the older/original advancement trail I have tried my hand at crafting something with current merits.

Optional Advancement Trail

A couple of things that went into this.
1. A focus on the traditional skills of the JB era, yes Camping. Now, I do complete merits at a time, not partials, but I think if you read through it you will see a lot of skills reinforce and repeated intentionally to develop proficiency.
2. I'm borrowing names from several branches of the military. No offence is intended to any of them.
For ease of reference, your Privates are the DR, the Sgts are AR, and the Officers are ER.
3. GMA I personally see that about 16, and I personally am a fan of the Jr. Commander in an attempt to help bridge young men from participation to leadership.
4. I'm using the term Bible Lessons as a general term to avoid confusion with the old/new, orange, brown, Sprit challenge. You as a commander figure out what the bible lessons are, just teach the Word.
5. This is Excel, I'm not that cool, edit as you like.
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Post by ccm2361 May 27th 2013, 9:44 pm

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Post by Phillip Gross May 29th 2013, 11:38 pm

Just been looking through this a little more. I like the general feel for this, but have a question. Is there any way to make it so that a boy can come in at any age and start his advancement? To me, someone who comes in at 13 and starts going shouldn't out rank a boy who's been going strong since the 3rd grade. I'm fine with a third year DR outranking a first or second year AR or even ER....
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Post by RRCmdrBennett May 31st 2013, 8:18 am

I like the old way of Trailblazer and air/sea/trail rangers being 7 steps like scouts.

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Post by Phillip Gross May 31st 2013, 10:16 am

I still need to buy an old Trailblazer handbook so I can brush up on how it was done....
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Post by strods May 31st 2013, 1:16 pm

Phillip Gross wrote:Just been looking through this a little more. I like the general feel for this, but have a question. Is there any way to make it so that a boy can come in at any age and start his advancement? To me, someone who comes in at 13 and starts going shouldn't out rank a boy who's been going strong since the 3rd grade. I'm fine with a third year DR outranking a first or second year AR or even ER....

Of course, just run it that way. I put the age notations in as a guide to help give me time references for the # of bible references etc. these are ideas for guidelines. I'm not cool enough to make policy
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Post by ccm2361 May 31st 2013, 2:37 pm

strods wrote:I'm not cool enough to make policy

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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 1st 2013, 7:26 pm

That's mean alot coming from "Mr. Ammo-deficient" LOL

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Post by Phillip Gross June 1st 2013, 10:32 pm

RRCmdrBennett wrote:That's mean alot coming from "Mr. Ammo-deficient" LOL
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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 2nd 2013, 2:41 pm

You said he wasn't cool and I called you ammo-deficient and I hijacked it...tsk tsk

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Post by Phillip Gross June 2nd 2013, 3:54 pm

Not me.... That was Chris. Cool
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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 2nd 2013, 4:22 pm

I was referring to Chris's post citing me for hijack.

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Post by Phillip Gross June 2nd 2013, 4:26 pm

I cited you for hijack.... Laughing
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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 2nd 2013, 4:30 pm

You are right you did but I'm being targeted here... Lol

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Post by ccm2361 June 2nd 2013, 4:30 pm

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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 2nd 2013, 4:31 pm

I think Philip ahould apply for the IRS or DOJ... He is good at targeting certain groups or individuals.
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Post by Phillip Gross June 2nd 2013, 4:48 pm

It's just a mild case of OCD....
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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 2nd 2013, 10:32 pm

Mild...?

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Post by Phillip Gross June 2nd 2013, 11:02 pm

It's all relative... Wink
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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 2nd 2013, 11:19 pm

Relative like how we're related or relative like a sibling? lol!

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Post by ccm2361 June 3rd 2013, 10:43 pm

Or relative as to how close you are to being a doofus? lol!

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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 4th 2013, 12:22 am

Takes one to know one... bang
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Post by Claymore June 4th 2013, 1:08 am

ccm2361 wrote:Or relative as to how close you are to being a doofus? lol!

By the way, who is that emoticon supposed to be?

It looks like Buckwheat of the Little Rascals.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett June 4th 2013, 1:56 am

First, its Papa Smurf and now Buckwheat...

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Post by Claymore June 4th 2013, 2:25 am

See, it shows that my "Recent Memory" is deteriorating.

First, I was recognizing the Smurfs of 30 years ago, now it's the Little Rascals of 50 to 60 years ago.

I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but I can tell you what I was doing when John Kennedy was shot.

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