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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
We might actually get concealed carry in Illinois, one county at a time...
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
What's happening in Illinois?
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/06/foghorn/bottom-drops-out-of-ar-15-market/
For those interested prices are dropping. Depending on where you go ammo is well-stocked too.
For those interested prices are dropping. Depending on where you go ammo is well-stocked too.
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9mm vs .40S&W
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Police superintendant of Chicago intimidating potential ccw permit holders
Chicago Police Superintendent Says Cops Will Shoot Gun Carrying Citizens Because of His Training
http://gunsnfreedom.com/chicago-police-superintendent-says-cops-will-shoot-gun-carrying-citizens-because-of-his-training/
Still repeating the mantra of less guns more laws equals less crime despite 49 states having some kind of ccw.
http://gunsnfreedom.com/chicago-police-superintendent-says-cops-will-shoot-gun-carrying-citizens-because-of-his-training/
Still repeating the mantra of less guns more laws equals less crime despite 49 states having some kind of ccw.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I'm a fan of the 12 gauge shotgun simply for the versatility of ammunition. (I know how to tactical load.)ccm2361 wrote:I'm sticking with my shotgun (especially since I don't have $1000 sitting around)
Question: I've heard the sound of the slide cock will work well for psychological purposes against a home invasion. Of course, I've also heard the counter argument of you give away your position and advertise you are armed.
I would say I am neutral on the act of shooting. I'm not wanting to or even looking forward to it, but if a man has made the choice to B&E into my house likely with a weapon, with my wife and children . . . I feel he has opened himself to the consequences those choices incur.
Fortunately, I have never been in the situation, but if it were to occur, what would you recommend as the best course of action in home defense?
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I went with the 9mm because I saw ballistic ballistic evidence that showed there wasn't much difference between a 9mm and .45 when firing comparable bullets.RRCmdrBennett wrote:www.imakenews.com/valhalla/e_article002168437.cfm?x=bk1b43S,bbSbHJ7K
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I've heard a lot of people say a pistol in trained hands is still the best defense because it's harder to be taken than a long gun. You can also get the high energy transfer rounds that don't go zinging through four walls into your neighbors bedroom.strods wrote:I'm a fan of the 12 gauge shotgun simply for the versatility of ammunition. (I know how to tactical load.)ccm2361 wrote:I'm sticking with my shotgun (especially since I don't have $1000 sitting around)
Question: I've heard the sound of the slide cock will work well for psychological purposes against a home invasion. Of course, I've also heard the counter argument of you give away your position and advertise you are armed.
I would say I am neutral on the act of shooting. I'm not wanting to or even looking forward to it, but if a man has made the choice to B&E into my house likely with a weapon, with my wife and children . . . I feel he has opened himself to the consequences those choices incur.
Fortunately, I have never been in the situation, but if it were to occur, what would you recommend as the best course of action in home defense?
Just my nonprofessional opinion.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
A 12 ga with buckshot #3 or #4 will not likely pass through walls. With a long gun you get a wider sight radius and better accuracy. Shotguns can be devastating and has a psychological effect on an intruder. Shotguns aka scatterguns can spread a shot about 1" per yard. If you fire at someone 15' away it will spread about 5". With a pistol you get less than .45". Easier to dodge an area of .45" than 1-5".
Long guns are easier to control and aim than a pistol. Adjusting your target area if the intruder runs is quicker with long guns. If he's close enough to try to fight for the gun a long gun can be used to rifle-butt the attacker in the chest, stomach, neck, and face. If you can't pull back the long gun to use the butt you have a long metal pipe (barrel) to bash his head in with. The only thing you could do with a pistol is whip the guy with the slide. Revolvers would do better since its a hunk of metal except for the grip. Imho, a pistol is easier to knock out or take away from you than a long gun.
Pistols are great for everyday carry, very practical, concealable, more rounds, and they are less alarming than slinging an AR-15 or shotgun. In what people n the prepper world call a SHTF (I say Scat instead) a rifle is more preferred. I read someone say they'd rather face a pistol than a bolt action rifle. I'd say don't neglect your long guns either.
Long guns are easier to control and aim than a pistol. Adjusting your target area if the intruder runs is quicker with long guns. If he's close enough to try to fight for the gun a long gun can be used to rifle-butt the attacker in the chest, stomach, neck, and face. If you can't pull back the long gun to use the butt you have a long metal pipe (barrel) to bash his head in with. The only thing you could do with a pistol is whip the guy with the slide. Revolvers would do better since its a hunk of metal except for the grip. Imho, a pistol is easier to knock out or take away from you than a long gun.
Pistols are great for everyday carry, very practical, concealable, more rounds, and they are less alarming than slinging an AR-15 or shotgun. In what people n the prepper world call a SHTF (I say Scat instead) a rifle is more preferred. I read someone say they'd rather face a pistol than a bolt action rifle. I'd say don't neglect your long guns either.
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In NRA-ILA news 22 states have joined the NRA in suit to overturn federal ban on 18-20 yr olds being allowed to own a handgun.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2013/8/22-states-join-the-national-rifle-association-in-supreme-court-fight-for-the-second-amendment-rights-of-young-adults.aspx?s&st&ps
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2013/8/22-states-join-the-national-rifle-association-in-supreme-court-fight-for-the-second-amendment-rights-of-young-adults.aspx?s&st&ps
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I've always thought the .45 was a more devastating round. I don't see that much more of an advantage of using a .40 over 9mm. I went with 9mm for cost, more rounds, cheap ammo, more 9mm ammo available under normal political circumstances.Phillip Gross wrote:I went with the 9mm because I saw ballistic ballistic evidence that showed there wasn't much difference between a 9mm and .45 when firing comparable bullets.RRCmdrBennett wrote:www.imakenews.com/valhalla/e_article002168437.cfm?x=bk1b43S,bbSbHJ7K
Agree or disagree?
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I understand some material should be reserved for adults: firearms, alcohol, tobacco, Etc. But frankly if one can vote and enlist in military service, they should be old enough for everything. I hate this 18 for something, 21 for others. IMHO it should just be 18 across the board.RRCmdrBennett wrote:In NRA-ILA news 22 states have joined the NRA in suit to overturn federal ban on 18-20 yr olds being allowed to own a handgun.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2013/8/22-states-join-the-national-rifle-association-in-supreme-court-fight-for-the-second-amendment-rights-of-young-adults.aspx?s&st&ps
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I believe so too. We should be raising them to act like adults and be mature by 16 so by 18 they are adults. We as a society try to stretch childhood as far as possible. Eighteen was the age of adulthood and men were required to do service in the militia.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
But in this day and age of glorified youth and despised old age and wisdom, maybe the age for everything should be increased to 25 (or more)! Plus the fact that the human brain is still developing physically until about the mid 20's. I believe that we could and should require more out of our young people (and do from my kids), but as a culture overall it ain't happenin'! And I don't think it will until it becomes necessary, read 'collapse'. Why grow up when you can be a complete undisciplined moron and our government will give you everything?
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Agreed Philip. Values and priorities are different now. The big push is for men and women to go to college, owe a huge bucket of $ to uncle sam, and work at Walmart or McD. Old values were teach girls to be wives and moms and boys knew how to do their father's trade by 16. Higher education was for the elite only.
In a collapse the MTV/Ipod gen will adapt or die quickly. It'll be survival of the fittest. When I hear well thats what 20 yr olds do (Miley Cyrus) I think well good parenting and good culture would teach young people better. Unfortunately, when they still act 12 when they're 22 they quickly grow up when the law takes a hold of them. If you upped legal adulthood to 21 or 25 it would allow 20 yr olds to commit high crimes and be tried as juveniles.
In a collapse the MTV/Ipod gen will adapt or die quickly. It'll be survival of the fittest. When I hear well thats what 20 yr olds do (Miley Cyrus) I think well good parenting and good culture would teach young people better. Unfortunately, when they still act 12 when they're 22 they quickly grow up when the law takes a hold of them. If you upped legal adulthood to 21 or 25 it would allow 20 yr olds to commit high crimes and be tried as juveniles.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I went out today to shoot my new gun. I did some 9mm shooting too. I noticed for the first time when I emptied my mag the slide wouldn't lock back. I would dry fire after my last shot. Claymore, what do you think might be the problem?
It shoots fine otherwise. Chris thought it might be a bad spring or weak ammo. I was firing 115gr fmj. I've always used 115gr.
It shoots fine otherwise. Chris thought it might be a bad spring or weak ammo. I was firing 115gr fmj. I've always used 115gr.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
First thing to check is the magazine:
Possibly bad magazine (dented, bad feed lips)
Possibly broken follower (the part that engages with slide stop)
Possibly weak magazine spring
----See if it also does it with a different magazine
Next possability is weak ammunition
----See if it does it with other PREMIUM Factory Ammo
Next possability is insufficient lubrication on slide rails
----Make sure that slide rails are lubed or greased
Next would be to make sure that your elbows are locked when shooting the pistol, so that your arm is not being a shock absorber for the recoil.
Next would be a malfunction with the pistol: Worn Slide Stop or Slide Stop Notch in the Slide (make sure that it is assembled properly and properly inserted).
If the slide locks back when you pull it manually with no ammunition, then it is probably low powered ammunition, need for lubrication, or elbows & wrist not locked.
Possibly bad magazine (dented, bad feed lips)
Possibly broken follower (the part that engages with slide stop)
Possibly weak magazine spring
----See if it also does it with a different magazine
Next possability is weak ammunition
----See if it does it with other PREMIUM Factory Ammo
Next possability is insufficient lubrication on slide rails
----Make sure that slide rails are lubed or greased
Next would be to make sure that your elbows are locked when shooting the pistol, so that your arm is not being a shock absorber for the recoil.
Next would be a malfunction with the pistol: Worn Slide Stop or Slide Stop Notch in the Slide (make sure that it is assembled properly and properly inserted).
If the slide locks back when you pull it manually with no ammunition, then it is probably low powered ammunition, need for lubrication, or elbows & wrist not locked.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
Thanks Chris suggested many of the same things. Tonight after work I tried all 4 mags. The compact and 1 extended mag locked the slide back when I pulled it. The other 2 extended mags wouldn't. The only thing that I could see different was when I looked directly down from on top of where the round sits the curves of the sides where more sharply angled. The other 2 mags that worked curved as well but the curves were more "subtle" instead of sharp.
Odd thing is all these mags were used in previous sessions without a problem. I am relieved its a mag issue instead of the pistol.
Since its a mag issue would the maker guarantee them? Would I need to see a gunsmith about fixing the other 2 mags?
Odd thing is all these mags were used in previous sessions without a problem. I am relieved its a mag issue instead of the pistol.
Since its a mag issue would the maker guarantee them? Would I need to see a gunsmith about fixing the other 2 mags?
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
RRCmdrBennett wrote:
Since its a mag issue would the maker guarantee them?
Maybe yes. Maybe no.
It wouldn't hurt to e-mail the company. Maybe they will tell you to send them in.
When I go to the range, I take a roll of green plastic tape and red plastic tape. If a magazine functions flawlessly and never malfunctions, I cut a small 1/4" square of green tape and place it on the bottom of the magazine (the disassembly cover plate).
If a magazine is not 100% reliable, I place a square of red tape on the bottom. These are used only for practice. I may play with changing springs, followers, or what-not to make them reliable.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
I'll see what I can do to fix it. I am thinking the curve up top of the two bad ones looking different might be the problem. I may dismantle one and use needle nose pliers to reshape it a little bit and see it locks back.
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
Before you alter the magazines, contact the manufacturer. It might be worth your time; you could get free replacement magazines.
But if you alter them any way, then they almost definately will not stand behind them and you might be gerstucken (stuck).
But if you alter them any way, then they almost definately will not stand behind them and you might be gerstucken (stuck).
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Obama offers grants for more police in schools
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/27/obama-admin-borrows-a-page-from-the-nra-funding-cops-in-schools/
Obama steals a page from the NRA playbook...
The NRA suggested this 9 months ago! I'd prefer armed guards or well-trained in-house people providing security. Seems like a lot to have a valuable resource tied down to a school all day. I worry it will lead to even more of a police state.
Obama steals a page from the NRA playbook...
The NRA suggested this 9 months ago! I'd prefer armed guards or well-trained in-house people providing security. Seems like a lot to have a valuable resource tied down to a school all day. I worry it will lead to even more of a police state.
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FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
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Lima
Golf
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RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Age : 48
Location : Ohio
Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
We had School Liaison Officers.
Kind-of a waste, having a $52,000.00 cop walking around a school, giving D.A.R.E. Classes, and writing tickets for tobacco possession.
Kind-of a waste, having a $52,000.00 cop walking around a school, giving D.A.R.E. Classes, and writing tickets for tobacco possession.
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"The last thing that I want to do is to hurt you,...................... but it's still on the list."
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Location : Northern Mississippi
Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)
Ironic they reject NRA when we suggest it.
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GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
Outpost Leader Advancement Levels:
LMA-Advanced 10/11, MoE 2012-092
RR v1.0
Lima
Golf
Bravo
RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
- Posts : 3605
Join date : 2013-05-15
Age : 48
Location : Ohio
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