NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

I was getting ready to go into town to go to the bank, get a haircut, & stop at Wal-Mart.

Showered, changed clothes, checked the Kel-Tec, and......oops. I had been chain-sawing wood last week, and found some fine wood dust on the gun and inside the slide.

Took it to the Gun-Room, disassembled, played Rub-a-Dub-Dub, reassembled, .........and it's off to Town.

This actually brings up a good point. Manufacturers and the Military say that a pistol should have a light-to-moderate coat of lubricant to run well and reduce wear. But oil attracts dirt, sand, and sawdust.

So...

If you're going to shoot it a lot (practice or competition); lubricate it.

If you're going to carry it, have it nearly dry. After all, you're not going to expend 200 rounds in a gunfight.

By the way; not COMPLETELY dry. I knew a detective who cleaned his pistol with carburetor cleaner, left it dry without any oil, and it turned into a jam-a-matic.

Claymore wrote:If you're going to carry it, have it nearly dry.  After all, you're not going to expend 200 rounds in a gunfight

Speak for yourself!  

I agree a right not exercised is a right lost.

http://mylegalheat.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/in-defense-of-open-carry/

Well, that's wackadoodles.

I had always been taught (even in classes given by the ATF) that a "straw purchase" was an "eligible person" purchasing a firearm for an "ineligible person".

I agree. Buying for an eligible person or waiting 90 days to give it or sell it away never qualified as straw purchase. Its a croc that if someone tells you a specific make, model, caliber, etc is a straw puchase. How many times have you bought a gift knowing the exact item they wanted to receive?

The way to get around that is to take'm to the gunshop and buy a gift card so they can buy the gun they want.

Are there any repercussions from unknowingly selling a gun to an ineligble individual? Such is the case of two private parties. My father inlaw once bought a 20 ga shotgun at a gunshow from a private party and he only had to show photo ID.

The seller could be arrested and charged, with the IRS expecting the Defendant to have to "prove himself innocent".

So from the time that ATF books the "offender" until the time that a judge/jury dismisses the case against the Defendant, he has all of his firearms rounded up in a pile, thrown into an evidence room, he cannot purchase any replacements, and he must pay attorney fees.

If nothing else, keep the name, date of birth, and address of the buyer for your records. That way, if a trace on the gun ever comes back to you, you can offer the investigators something in "good faith".

When a gun is bought throughan FFL do they record the serial # on the paperwork?

If you wanted to be 100% certain could one sell it via a local FFL transfer for a fee even though its an in state sale?

RRCmdrBennett wrote:When a gun is bought throughan FFL do they record the serial # on the paperwork?  

If you wanted to be 100% certain could one sell it via a local FFL transfer for a fee even though its an in state sale?

Yes. The serial number and manufacturer (or importer) are recorded, and that is the basis of how they do a firearms trace.

If a gun is recovered at a crime scene, it has the manufacturer/importer stamped on it with the serial number. ATF goes to the manufacturer/importer and asks what distributor did the gun with this s/n go to. Then the distributor tells what gun dealer got the gun, then by looking at the gun dealer's records, they can see who made the final retail sale.

Actually, here would be the SQUEAKY LEGAL way to do the same transaction.

Officer Blackjack gets the Pistol at his police discount.  Officer Blackjack has this (or another dealer) receive the Pistol and transfer it to Uncle Spunky for a $20.00 fee.  

THAT meets ATF's requirements, because there is no circumvention of ATF Paperwork.

What you described happening during a firearm trace sounds like a roundabout way of doing gun registration. Albeit a decentralized database but a definitely doable.

This is all pretty tame compared to the crazy firearm laws here in the Socialist State of New Jersey! Before we can even think of buying a rifle, we have to apply for a firearm purchaser id card (which is permanent)... That takes about 6-8 weeks after the fingerprinting is done. Once you received that card (it costs $7), you can purchase a long gun just like any other state. For a pistol, we need the above card, then submit application to the local police. after another 6-8 weeks, they give you the permit (actually you pay $18 for it) and you can go get your pistol. Without the firearm id card, you can't even look at a gun in a store (well, I guess you can look, but not touch or hold.) CCW in NJ is a joke. there is an application, but none get approved unless you work for an armored car, and then its only valid while on duty!

I feel ya in Jersey I came from MD which is just almost as bad as NJ. That doesn't infringe on 2A rights... (Insert sarcasm).

Just got back from a trip to Milwaukee. I had to get my Annual Law Enforcement Firearms Certification Update.

Now, I can again drive through states like Illinois that do not recognize my Mississippi CCW Permit.

Is that part of the nat'l retired LEO's act that allows 50 state reciprocity? I was thinking about that awhile ago in regards to you and wondered why you needed a MS permit?

Does that include DC?

Yes, it's associated with the LEOSA.

I keep my Mississippi Permit, because I have to renew the Federal requirements annually, and the Mississippi permit is good for 6 years, & it is essentially good anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon Line (which is where I am 50 weeks per year).

RRCmdrBennett wrote:

Does that include DC?  

Yeah, but...

You can carry in DC, but the Government can restrict Federal Buildings.

So:

You can carry anywhere in DC, so long as you don't go anyplace.

In my opinion the 2A should apply equally to all citizens not just retired cops. No point in going to DC if you don't visit the buildings. The rest of DC is garbage.

Interestingly, the same people (Kennedys & Clintons) who were against the Populus having CC were also against police being able to cross state lines with their firearms.

Reason: They reside mostly in a Federal enclave (DC), and they have their own Federal Police Guards, and they don't want anyone other than their own people having fireams.

I am sure the decisions of the Lords and Nobles would be different if they didn't receive such protections. Antigun Bloomberg, Michael Moore, Piers Morgan, etc all protected by armed men. Even the group "Moms Demand Action" march was protected by armed police.

What is everyone's thoughts on these retailers trying to appease the gun control lobby while not putting up signs legally banning ccw?  Would you not carry in a store whose corp policy was to not carry but did not post no-gun signs?  I plan to carry on as long as there is no sign posted.

I had this thought occur to me when seeing no-gun signs in some places that its akin to "no coloreds allowed" or "whites only" signs businesses would post up. They justified it by saying its my private business and my right to do so. The 2A is the only right that says, "shall bot be infringed" but most people defend business owner's right to infringe on it. Now race, gender, faith, sexual orientation, etc is protected and businesses can't restrict. I don't believe owners should discriminate on the basis of race but neither should they have the right to infringe on 2A either.

Army Wants a Harder-Hitting Pistol

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/07/03/army-wants-a-harder-hitting-pistol.html?ESRC=army-a.nl

"Soldiers who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan have complained that the 9mm round is not powerful enough to be effective in combat.

"The 9mm doesn't score high with soldier feedback," said Easlick, explaining that the Army, and the other services, want a round that will have better terminal effects -- or cause more damage -- when it hits enemy combatants. "We have to do better than our current 9mm."

The MHS will be an open-caliber competition that will evaluate larger rounds such as .357 Sig, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.

The FBI and several major police departments recently decided to return to using the 9mm round after finding that .40 caliber ammunition was causing excessive wear on its service pistols. The heavier bullet and greater recoil over time resulted in frame damage to well respected makes such as Glock and Beretta, according to Ernest Langdon, a shooting instructor and respected competitive pistol shooter who has worked for gun makers such as Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Sig Sauer."

DUH!

They've got a better cartridge. It was invented back in 1911. It is called the, ummmm..............


M-1911.

I saw that the army is looking for a replacement for the Beretta M9.

I take it you agree 9mm is not sufficient for combat?