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Re: Introduction
And you dare put the rebel symbol in your signature... tsk tsk. A true rebel wouldn't allow the close minded ideas of others hold him back.RRCmdrBennett wrote:
I wouldn't care but some people would.
Phillip Gross- Special Member
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Re: Introduction
Stangled meat. For one it's wrong for another it's not wrong.
We have played store with poker chips. Used them for targets. There are a lot of things that we can get hung up on. The names of the days of the week would be one big one. GRIN!
I thought Bullets and guns would be a bad omen because they are associated with death yet they are also associated with Freedom and maintaining that Freedom.
Lots of things go into the mix. If someone feels convicted about something best stay away from it.
Mark Jones
We have played store with poker chips. Used them for targets. There are a lot of things that we can get hung up on. The names of the days of the week would be one big one. GRIN!
I thought Bullets and guns would be a bad omen because they are associated with death yet they are also associated with Freedom and maintaining that Freedom.
Lots of things go into the mix. If someone feels convicted about something best stay away from it.
Mark Jones
Re: Introduction
Well, Mark I am just picking my battles If its a core doctrinal issue then we'll
Romans 14:16 is what guides me in this decision. Personally, I have no problem using a poker chip. Its just not an issue I want to fight over or have the good thing spoken evil of.
You'll have to enlighten me on names of the days of the week being controversial.
Romans 14:16 is what guides me in this decision. Personally, I have no problem using a poker chip. Its just not an issue I want to fight over or have the good thing spoken evil of.
You'll have to enlighten me on names of the days of the week being controversial.
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RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: Introduction
Howdy!
I think you guys are on the same page. I know former gamblers who I wouldnt do anything with chips around, yet I have no problem with them. I dont have any temptation towards it. Yet, you get me around a room full of flintlocks . . .
Well,
It might not be a good thing.
I think you guys are on the same page. I know former gamblers who I wouldnt do anything with chips around, yet I have no problem with them. I dont have any temptation towards it. Yet, you get me around a room full of flintlocks . . .
Well,
It might not be a good thing.
red squirrel- Member
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Re: Introduction
Then don't ye come up to the Log Cabin Shop in Lodi, OH you maybe a sinnin...
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
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RRCmdrBennett- Moderator
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Re: Introduction
Research the names of the days of the week. Factually pagan. We are on the same page.
Where to draw a line is up to each of us.
Mark Jones
Where to draw a line is up to each of us.
Mark Jones
Re: Introduction
Howdy!
Actually, the log cabin shop is on my bucket list . . .
RRCmdrBennett wrote:Then don't ye come up to the Log Cabin Shop in Lodi, OH you maybe a sinnin...
Actually, the log cabin shop is on my bucket list . . .
red squirrel- Member
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Re: Introduction
It's a piece of plastic.RRCmdrBennett wrote:That's fine if it works for you. I don't think that would fly here too well because poker chips are associated with gambling. I wouldn't care but some people would.Mark Jones wrote:I would use a poker chip. The boys would really think they had something there. Just like the time we shot a machine gun...the boys tore the ground up trying to get the shells from a machine gun.
They are perfect, because you can get a box of 100 for $2.00 at WAL-MART.
If a kid draws on one or loses it, no problem. Get out a Sharpie & make a replacement.
If "unholy Poker Chips" are a problem, take the box down to St. Mary's Church, explain the situation to Father Donnigan, have him bless it, and you're O.K.
Then you can tell the parents that you use "Consecrated Poker Chips".
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Claymore- Special Member
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Re: Introduction
Claymore wrote:
It's a piece of plastic.
They are perfect, because you can get a box of 100 for $2.00 at WAL-MART.
If a kid draws on one or loses it, no problem. Get out a Sharpie & make a replacement.
If "unholy Poker Chips" are a problem, take the box down to St. Mary's Church, explain the situation to Father Donnigan, have him bless it, and you're O.K.
Then you can tell the parents that you use "Consecrated Poker Chips".
red squirrel- Member
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Re: Introduction
Risking a hijack call on me but I could find a lot of objects to use.
Simeon, if you get to Lodi shoot me a msg and I'll take a visit there to meet ya. In the back room where ye 1th century flinters are there is a log cabin model an outpost donated to the shop. I missed it first time seeing it but there is an outpost # marked on it.
Simeon, if you get to Lodi shoot me a msg and I'll take a visit there to meet ya. In the back room where ye 1th century flinters are there is a log cabin model an outpost donated to the shop. I missed it first time seeing it but there is an outpost # marked on it.
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
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GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
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Re: Introduction
Claymore wrote:"Consecrated Poker Chips"
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sreidelberger- Member
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Re: Introduction
Just goes to show that the idea of "Consecrated Poker Chips" is as silly as "Evil Poker Chips".
Which brings up a parallel point:
We have a new pastor and his wife, and they have a ministry of handing out "Prayer Cloths". They instruct us to pray over them, and then hand them out to others. They have reports of great interventions of God, when Christians participate in this.
But.....
Catholics get scoffed at for having "Holy Cards" or religious medals "Blessed" and given out. The "Blessing" is nothing more than to pray over it.
So......................
What's Really the difference?????????
Which brings up a parallel point:
We have a new pastor and his wife, and they have a ministry of handing out "Prayer Cloths". They instruct us to pray over them, and then hand them out to others. They have reports of great interventions of God, when Christians participate in this.
But.....
Catholics get scoffed at for having "Holy Cards" or religious medals "Blessed" and given out. The "Blessing" is nothing more than to pray over it.
So......................
What's Really the difference?????????
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Claymore- Special Member
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Re: Introduction
I didn't say poker chips were evil. I don't want blowback from church leaders over using something that most people associate with gambling and not much else. What you're doing with it is good and acceptable in your church. No problem from me. Its the arguement from "some" that its association might lure boys to try gambling. Some logic to it but no big deal to me. My church is also categorized as Holiness as well as Pentacostal. Holiness churches have a history of avoiding things like that. We're pretty moderate though a far as Holiness churches go. We don't ban movie theaters (but we don't encourage them either, no ban on amusement parks, etc. In the past these things were banned.
It could be worse I was told by Ben how one Holiness Youth pastor in another church bans all forms of social media like fb, instagram, snapshot, etc. That would probably include forums too. We here embrace social media or leave it up to the individual to decide.
It could be worse I was told by Ben how one Holiness Youth pastor in another church bans all forms of social media like fb, instagram, snapshot, etc. That would probably include forums too. We here embrace social media or leave it up to the individual to decide.
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
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Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
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Re: Introduction
We've done the prayer cloth thing too. Yea, its right up there with holy water and all that you mentioned. Its no different than what Catholics do.
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
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Re: Introduction
My church is also "Holiness".RRCmdrBennett wrote: My church is also categorized as Holiness as well as Pentacostal. Holiness churches have a history of avoiding things like that. We're pretty moderate though a far as Holiness churches go. We don't ban movie theaters (but we don't encourage them either, no ban on amusement parks, etc. In the past these things were banned.
The problem is when there is no discernment, and they become overly legalistic, they can get close to being cult-like.
Some church leaders will quote Old Testament Law to back up their own beliefs, but see if they're brave enough to make the women take off their make-up and ear-rings.
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Re: Introduction
I know what you mean. I've found interesting that we're taught we're not under the old law but you do law #1, 2, 7, and 12. Law #3-6 and #8-11 don't apply anymore. Isn't there something Paul said that if you require one you're bound to all? The way tithing is taught by most is through quoting OT. Supposedly require during pre-law days citing Abraham paying to Melchisadek (sp?). Read it carefully 1/10 of the, "spoils of war" not 1/10 of all he had accumulated thus far. Jacob's tithing is never mentioned because he was making a conditional deal with God, "do this Lord I'll tithe". There was no central place or priesthood to bring tithes to before Levitical law flip over to NT Jesus praises pharisees for tithing but that is because it was law they were under. As well, he referred to it as not being a "weightier matter of the law" or less important than faith, love, and hope.
I meant no disrespect I once was a CoG member. My father in-law's church, "The Church of God" is an offshoot of your CoG. To differentiate between themselves and yours they call you guys "the Church of God of Elders".
On the scale of, "Holiness Churches" we don't have nearly the extreme rules of some.
Another good example of Law we won't obey is the paying of USD if you raped my daughter and then marry her!
I meant no disrespect I once was a CoG member. My father in-law's church, "The Church of God" is an offshoot of your CoG. To differentiate between themselves and yours they call you guys "the Church of God of Elders".
On the scale of, "Holiness Churches" we don't have nearly the extreme rules of some.
Another good example of Law we won't obey is the paying of USD if you raped my daughter and then marry her!
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Dan Bennett
Sr Commander (2007-2016)
N Central Area Communications Coord, CI (2016)
Outpost #215, Ohio District :flag:
GMA #83 Potomac Dist-#2366 Nat'l
"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."
FCF Frontiersman 9/91
Free Trapper 2016
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11,
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Re: Introduction
I would like new members to start their own thread so they dont get lost in this big thread
locking this one
locking this one
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