Lashing

Anyone willing to expound on the different uses for Shear and Round lashing?

Very close that is for sure. I would have to get the reference out but one is used when you can't get between the logs. I hardly every use either one of those. If I needed a long pole I would.

Mark Jones

Shear and round lashing...is that the latest in eye wear fashion? Or the latest in Taliban punishment for getting educated?

Now I saw that you had posted on this thread, and thought, "Oh sure. The Sailor is going to embarass the rest of us and show off his knowledge of Lashing".

What's the best rope or twine that you've found for good lashing projects? Obviously size of wood will play into that answer, so let's say wood from 1" to 2 1/2" diameters.

I've been using clothesline because it's so cheap, but it's also pretty stretchy. And some are decent to wrap natural surfaces, but others seem to be very "clingy" and snag continuously on the bark making it unpleasant to work with.

Depends.

If it's going to outside for a week or two in the rain or water I use ski rope.

If it's in the classroom sash cord is the softest.

I get my rope free from old ladders. Go see your local phonecompany garage and 2 times a year they have a contractor come in and replace the ropes on all the ladders befriend one and see what he can gather for you. A small gift card for a dinner will get you all kinds of useable rope.

I think teaching the merits the larger the rope the better.

I have a Sawbuck in the classroom that I have about 20 pieces of 3/8 rope about 7 foot long. The ends are just braided back on themselves.

We do rope craft as a filler at least once a month for a few mintues in between projects or as a time filler. Review, Review, Review is the best way to teach them.

Keep those ropes handy so it's not a big deal to pull them out. Also keep a rope card out that shows knots.

Mark Jones

Always instruct the boys never to cut the ropes. One commander had a bunch of nice ropes and one boy cut them all instead of untying them.

Also. If you are going to buy rope. Go to a wholesaler and tell them it's for a Church boyscout group. I have gotten rope that sales for 10cents a foot for 4 cents a foot.

We lashed up 2 Rafts for a pow wow event.

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I just used some 1/4" hemp rope if I remember right. I had 2 AR boys help me lash them up. The logs were cedar and I kept the bark from them. It has been a gold mine for 5 years put it in a large tote in the attic and it's always ready for a fire.

Mark Jones

Phillip Gross wrote:What's the best rope or twine that you've found for good lashing project?

Wow, I'm cheap. In Iowa I go down to the Farm supply store and use bailing twine, that's REAL cheap. Of couse that is for projects that will only have the camp life span. If it is something pseudo permanante, Clothesline. Of couse I have so much of it, paracord is no stranger either, and we often make pace counts, wristbands, etc with that.

when I teach to braid, I often use yarn, usually Red,white, and blue for three seperate colors for learning and I can then call it patriotic too.

I have used binder twine at some District Camps but I showed them in the manual where it said not to use it...

Binder twine is not recommend for Pioneering projects any place where human weight would be applied to it. I wouldn't use it.

When I was a kid I braided ropes using 3 strands of binder twine. It looked good to me. Yet strength wise it's very inferior in strength to real rope.

I have bought spools of rope (hundreds of dollars worth) for several projects that needed the strength.

Rope bridges, Towers and Gateways. I love making these things.

Mark Jones