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Post by joecool on August 3rd 2017, 1:35 pm

Is it hot or what?! Lesson learned from this summer: increase the garden watering frequency in time. My raspberries aren't producing anymore. I'll have to go out into the wilds to get huckleberries and blackberries if I want the wife to keep making fresh jam. And after years of nursing (and yelling at) tomato plants, we're going to simplify and just go with cherry tomatoes. A lot sweeter and more productive, too.

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Post by Claymore on August 3rd 2017, 5:10 pm

Lord Bless Ya, making good use of God's Bounty.

Kind-of a long way from being the Captain of a Warship to a Berry-Picker in Montana, eh?

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Post by joecool on August 3rd 2017, 11:23 pm

Claymore wrote: Kind-of a long way from being the Captain of a Warship to a Berry-Picker in Montana, eh?

Just building up my resistance to scurvy.

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Post by ccm2361 on August 7th 2017, 4:12 pm

I am in the market for a new job. I grow weary of the erratic schedule.

I have a different start time each day (start anywhere from 3:30AM-8AM).
Work different days each week anywhere from 8-14 hours per day (average 10-12 hours)

on top of that, after 3.5 years, I make 25 cents an hour more than new hires.   thumb down

But so far I am not finding anything  Not Working

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Post by Claymore on August 9th 2017, 2:05 pm

A stable schedule is nice to have in life (tell ME, after working in the Military & Law Enforcement), especially when you have kids that need time & attention.

However, I believe that your job was a blessing when it came in.  If I recall correctly, you were living in an apartment, and were only getting about 30 hours of work with few benefits and had a patched-together car that was ready to flip over on its back.

Now you have a house, and I expect that your assets are doubled over what you had 3 1/2 years ago.

Maybe it is time to look for new opportunities, but the job that you got did serve you well, for a period of time.

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Post by Phillip Gross on August 10th 2017, 6:49 am

Reminds me of the natural seasons of life. The warmth of the summer sun is a welcome change to the cold damp winter. Then you sweat for a few months and you're ready for some cold weather and fires at night. Just a natural tendency to start looking forward to the next season. However the hope and goal is that life is continually improved with each passing season, as Claymore pointed out about this current season.

I guess I'm saying that I agree with Claymore that you should look back on this past season positively, but that there's nothing wrong with having a feeling that the current situation may be coming to an end and it's time to start making plans and moves for the next season to come.

After almost 3 years working contracts down at the Boeing plant, I was SICK AND TIRED of it all! I had spent a lot of time away from my family and had to deal with more job sitw political BS than I enjoyed. I was more than ready to get away from that place! BUT, the profit from those contracts opened up more opportunities for my family. It boosted the company to another level of operational ability. So even though I look back on those years with a shudder, I can't discount the benefits.

Good luck in finding the direction for the next season Chris. Trust the Lord and He will direct your steps.
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Post by Phillip Gross on August 13th 2017, 10:00 pm

Had our "back to school bash" tonight at the outpost. Didn't have quite the turnout in kids that we had last year, but I know some of our returning kids were out of town for the last weekend before school starts back. We did have a few new people checking it out though.

We use the back to school bash as an ice breaker and orientation for the outpost. We'll start the real meetings next weekend. As the schedule would have it, I won't be there next Sunday night though. We have a bridal expo that we'll be at that weekend.

We did pick up FOUR new commanders for this year though, two of which don't even have sons in Rangers! We did lose one commander, so we have a net gain of three. I call it a win! Well, I guess we gained five new commanders because one of our graduated rangers is coming back as an Asst Commander, so... net gain of four! Smile

I pushed hard at the end of last year to recruit more guys. The fact is that we all have jobs and families. The more guys we have, the less catastrophic it is if one or two are missing on any given night. So at this point, we have at pool of ten commanders for the outpost.

We'll see how it all goes this year... With all the new blood, I need to get on the ball with scheduling commander trainings. The way I do it is that you're an Asst Cmdr until you've taken Ranger Basics and Essentials. NRMC is recommended if possible, but not mandatory, and WCO isn't recommended at all... Rolling Eyes
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Post by Claymore on August 13th 2017, 11:28 pm

Good for you guys. I'm glad to hear it.

We're kind-of in a period of Church Doldrums. Attendance is flat, and the Ranger Program is pretty thin.

I'm not really discouraged -- just attempting to recognize and evaluate the situation in order to attempt to overcome it.

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Post by Phillip Gross on August 14th 2017, 5:46 am

I think what helps us in numbers, both for leaders and kids, is that  from the start we have (pastor as well) viewed RR & AHG as outreach ministries to the community as much as for the kids within the church. As I've mentioned before, well over half of our kids come from families that attend other churches on Sunday mornings. We've also started allowing some of those parents to be in leadership as we have gotten to know them and trust that they are reputable. The four new commanders I mentioned above are guys that attend other churches.

However, we have gotten to know these guys over the past 1-3 years. They're the guys that stay most of the time anyway during outpost meetings. They know what the program and we are about, and we've seen them around the boys and feel good about how they are.

Our most valuable asset is that pastor views RR & AHG as the main ministry of our church along with the school. It's not an after thought, or just a program to keep the kids out from under foot while the parents listen to another message from the pulpit. That's why there has never been anything else going on at the church during outpost meetings.
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Post by RRCmdrBennett on August 14th 2017, 11:46 am

Claymore wrote:
I'm not really discouraged -- just attempting to recognize and evaluate the situation in order to attempt to overcome it.

If we all didn't know your background I would peg you military right off. lol!

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on August 14th 2017, 11:48 am

Phillip Gross wrote:I think what helps us in numbers, both for leaders and kids, is that  from the start we have (pastor as well) viewed RR & AHG as outreach ministries to the community as much as for the kids within the church. As I've mentioned before, well over half of our kids come from families that attend other churches on Sunday mornings. We've also started allowing some of those parents to be in leadership as we have gotten to know them and trust that they are reputable. The four new commanders I mentioned above are guys that attend other churches.

However, we have gotten to know these guys over the past 1-3 years. They're the guys that stay most of the time anyway during outpost meetings. They know what the program and we are about, and we've seen them around the boys and feel good about how they are.

Our most valuable asset is that pastor views RR & AHG as the main ministry of our church along with the school. It's not an after thought, or just a program to keep the kids out from under foot while the parents listen to another message from the pulpit. That's why there has never been anything else going on at the church during outpost meetings.

Its great when you don't feel like an afterthought.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on August 14th 2017, 11:50 am

Phillip Gross wrote:Reminds me of the natural seasons of life. The warmth of the summer sun is a welcome change to the cold damp winter. Then you sweat for a few months and you're ready for some cold weather and fires at night. Just a natural tendency to start looking forward to the next season. However the hope and goal is that life is continually improved with each passing season, as Claymore  pointed out about this current season.

I guess I'm saying that I agree with Claymore that you should look back on this past season positively, but that there's nothing wrong with having a feeling that the current situation may be coming to an end and it's time to start making plans and moves for the next season to come.

After almost 3 years working contracts down at the Boeing plant, I was SICK AND TIRED of it all! I had spent a lot of time away from my family and had to deal with more job sitw political BS than I enjoyed. I was more than ready to get away from that place! BUT, the profit from those contracts opened up more opportunities for my family. It boosted the company to another level of operational ability. So even though I look back on those years with a shudder, I can't discount the benefits.

Good luck in finding the direction for the next season Chris. Trust the Lord and He will direct your steps.

Sometimes life feels like one long winter in Narnia.

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Post by Phillip Gross on August 14th 2017, 7:28 pm

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Its great when you don't feel like an afterthought.  
Exactly Dan! That's a much more efficient way of saying it! Laughing It totally kills me that pastors don't see the benefit of this ministry for the Kingdom.
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