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.410 ga screw in chokes for New England Firearms H&R

Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 3rd 2015, 12:57 am

I have a single shot NEF H&R survivor barrel 19.5" .45 Colt/.410ga model SB1 attached to action from H&R with threads to screw in a choke which is missing. I'm looking for a Cylinder choke to plug the threads to allow it to fire shot loads. 

Claymore, problem is I'm having trouble finding .410 chokes for it. I'm not sure which chokes are compatible. I wanna try an sell it. A friend at church I lent it to took it to Gander Mtn and they said firing it without a choke installed would mess up the screw in threads. Which makes sense if I were using .410 shot pellet loads. What if I only use .45 Colt or .410 slugs?  The internal diameter where slugs travel is smaller than the diameter of the threads. I figure any damage caused would be just be from pellet loads. Am I right or wrong?

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Post by Claymore on December 3rd 2015, 2:36 am

While it wouldn't be smart to shoot it without the choke tubes in it, I don't think that you would permanently damage the threads, unless you were shooting something like steel shot or buckshot that is not contained in a plastic wad.  However, there is a good chance that you would have to clean up the threads with a brass brush & solvent to get the choke in afterwards.

Here is a guy that has 3 choke tubes for a .410.  Maybe you could ask him if you could purchase them conditionally, to see if they fit your shotgun.  One is a Cylinder Bore.

Offer that you would pay the shipping both ways, if you had to return them.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=527466959

or is your choke an external unit like the old .45 Thompson Center Contender?

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 3rd 2015, 7:40 am

Its internal. I opened my cabinet and in the door pouch from stack-on I saw a tube and wrench for a choke. I must of forgot about the choke. It has no markings to say what kind of choke like the invector plus do for my Winchester SXP 12ga but it fits perfect in the .410. It appears to be the same diameter on both ends of the choke. I believe its a cylinder choke which will be good for slugs and .45 Colt.

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Post by Phillip Gross on December 3rd 2015, 8:12 am

RRCmdrBennett wrote: It appears to be the same diameter on both ends of the choke.
Did you mic it, or just eyeball?
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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 3rd 2015, 11:20 am

Mic it?  I just eyeballed it. Unfortunately its not marked like the invector plus tubes.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 3rd 2015, 11:28 am

Claymore, after looking at the auction those tubes maybe invector. The top view of the notches looks like my tubes for my new SXP. I saw 3 notches for modified, no notches for cylinder, and 1 notch for full. Also the wrench is different than the one I have it looks like the same one I have for invector tubes but smaller for .410 ga.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 3rd 2015, 12:25 pm

Claymore, what is your opinion of using a .45 Colt a straight walled cartridge from a 19.5" barrel for deer hunting?

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Post by Phillip Gross on December 3rd 2015, 2:22 pm

RRCmdrBennett wrote:Mic it?  I just eyeballed it.
Using a micrometer to measure inside diameter on both ends to see if there's a change.
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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 3rd 2015, 7:02 pm

I don't think I have that. Wish it were marked with brand name cylinder type. Invector plus is easy to tell even when installed they have 1-5 notches or no notch at all.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 10th 2015, 8:21 pm

Well, today I gotter sold. Listed her on my fb and on Cleveland Area Gun Traders group. Got 3 hits in ten mins. A friend from work shared my post on her timeline and I found a firm buyer for the $100 I asked for it. Others offerred $60, $75, $76, another one offerred $100. Sold it right here near Walmart by Pizza Hut. Guy had a CHL so that worked for me. I didn't imagine there be that much interest in single shot breakdown!  I should have went for $150 obo!

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Post by Phillip Gross on December 10th 2015, 8:31 pm

What did you pay for it?
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Post by RRCmdrBennett on December 10th 2015, 8:58 pm

ZERO!  My father inlaw gave me the action, stock, and forearm as gift to build a slug gun. I never got a .12 ga rifled barrel. Then Ohio allowed straight walled cartridge rifles for hunting last year. My faher inlaw gave me the .44 mag single shot rifle complete with a second barrel came with it the .410 ga/ rifled .45 colt with screw in choke. Only thing missing was the forearm screw. I was going to use one of the screws from my H&R breakdown muzzleloader or .44 mag to replace it. Just have to share the one spare screw between the .44 and muzzleloader. The screw was too short to reach the .410 barrel. I suggested to the buyer to drill halfway down the exiting hole in the forearm piece to allow the screw to fasten onto the barrel. He was cool about that and thanked me. 

I tried the .410 onto the H&R action that was doing nothing and it worked. Tried selling it at church one guy was interested but couldn't buy it.  Went to FB and listed on my timeline and Cleveland traders. For non friends I expected an FFL transfer even in state or CHL card. Taking no chances on a felony sale.

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