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New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

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New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 24th 2015, 10:00 pm







Since I was a kid I always heard from my dad how great 30/30 lever actions were and I spotted this on facebook group "Ohio Gun Traders" for a great deal used. It has predrilled holes for scope mount but includes open sights and hold 7+1 rounds.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Phillip Gross on January 25th 2015, 11:42 am

What year is it?
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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2015, 5:44 am

Not sure it doesn't have a serial # on the action. I think prior to '69 since all guns required serial #'s on the actions. The guy I bought it off of said only numbers he saw was on the bolt when he dissassembled it. I have't taken it a part yet. Brownells has a good video series on breaking it down. I will do that today since I'm off.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Claymore on January 26th 2015, 1:54 pm

Dan, research shows that the Marlin 336CS was made from the 1980's through 2003.

The Cross-Bolt Safetys did not exist on Marlin Rifles prior to the 1980's.  "CS" stands for "Carbine" with "Safety Device".

I don't think that the serial number on my 336C was terribly hard to find. Try looking on the bottom of the receiver next to the barrel, or under the cocking lever.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2015, 1:58 pm

I found the serial # I was looking on the sides of the action but it was on the action behind the hammer on top. Do the 336W has the crossbolt safety?

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2015, 2:00 pm

I looked on oldguns.net to check the year but my serial is out of their database range.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Claymore on January 26th 2015, 2:26 pm

The 336W is said to be a less-expensive model of the 336. Some folks say that the "W" stands for "Wal-Mart".

I do not have personal experience with the "W" Model. But I don't think that Wal-Mart really grew nationally until the 1980's or 1990's, so (if they WERE made for Wal-Mart) I would expect them to have the Cross-Bolt Safetys.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Claymore on January 26th 2015, 2:29 pm

Also, your serial number may not be in the "OldGuns" database, because it is not an "Old Gun".

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2015, 3:24 pm

Any suggestions for where I can plug my serial to see what year it was made?

A friend of mine owns the W said it has birch wood and cs had walnut brown. Wal-mart took off in the '80s but really exploded in the '90s.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Claymore on January 26th 2015, 3:35 pm

RRCmdrBennett wrote:Any suggestions for where I can plug my serial to see what year it was made?

A friend of mine owns the W said it has birch wood and cs had walnut brown. Wal-mart took off in the '80s but really exploded in the '90s.

What I have seen tends to confirm what he said. I understand that Birch is even stronger than Walnut, but doesn't look as nice and is less expensive.

What are the first two characters of your serial number?

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2015, 3:48 pm

Zero five

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2015, 4:27 pm

Thank you.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 28th 2015, 11:49 pm

As promised the guy who sold me the rifle sent the scope mount.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Claymore on January 29th 2015, 12:07 am

My friend from "Up North" has a 336 (technically, a Model 1895) in 45-70.

He told me that, because Marlin's Micro-Groove Rifling doesn't work well with lead bullets, he is working on developing loads with paper-patched bullets.

I told him that Paper-Patching is "Alchemy", and that he may get kicked out of his church.

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 29th 2015, 11:34 am

lol!

What are the differences between micro grooving and regular rifling?

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Re: New Acquisition: Marlin model 336cs 30/30 Winchester

Post by Claymore on January 29th 2015, 10:20 pm

A conventional rifled barrel has between 4 and six groves cut in the barrel that are moderately (9/1000) inch deep.

The micro-groove barrel has 16 grooves and they are much shallower. Marlin claims that they are more accurate and easier to clean.

With conventional rifling, the hole is drilled in the barrel, and they use a rifling "hook" which makes several passes for each of the grooves for the barrel. In one hour, a manufacturer can rifle between 1 and 4 barrels.

With the micro-groove process, a hardened mandrel is pulled once through the barrel. Marlin can cut about 72 micro groove barrels per hour.

So easier to clean: Maybe.

More accurate: I've never seen a Marlin micro-groove barrel in the Olympics.

Less expensive to manufacture: Without a doubt.

(No disrespect meant to your gun, but if they're so good, how come the Army doesn't use them?)

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 29th 2015, 10:59 pm

Probably the same reason the Army gave most soldiers single shot percussion cap muzzleloaders during the 1860's when repeaters were available. The bean counters didn't want to replace old hardware.

I'm not saying it is or isn't better I Have no idea. I would like to see a test comparison between them and regular rifled barrels. To this point I have heard all good things about marlins and this gun is allegedly good between 100-150 yards open sight or 200 yards with a scope. When the weather warms up and I get a rifle rest I want to test that out.

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