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Post by strods on April 3rd 2014, 9:31 am

Our boys have been us long enough that they are outgrowing their original vests and starting to upgrade. That means we are starting to have old vests possibly coming back into circulation. (a sign we've been around a bit I guess?  Laughing )

Anyway, I thought I'd get your guy's experience / process / protocols on what you do with the Vest Exchange?
Credits, discounts for used, etc... what has worked well for you?
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Post by Claymore on April 3rd 2014, 9:45 am

Our church provides all uniform items at no cost, but the uniforms & vests remain in the Ranger Closet.  The only items that the boys take home are their T-Shirts (expendable item).

There are some parents that just won't pay for uniform items (and I'll say it; they drive newer cars than mine, & show up at church mainly when there is free food), but I don't want to keep boys from enjoying the Ministry.

However, I've found that, when we send uniforms home (even just for a week-end or to wear them to school during "Scout Week") they come back damaged from wearing them while playing football or riding 4-wheelers, or they don't come back at all.

Not a perfect situation, but the best that we have come up with.

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Post by Phillip Gross on April 3rd 2014, 1:52 pm

Wait,... so boys don't just keep their previous vest with the patches on them? I understand having a patchless vest if the boy hit a major growth spurt between 3rd-5th grade, but they don't just keep the DR vest patched up and start a new vest for AR etc as they move up?
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Post by strods on April 3rd 2014, 3:40 pm

Now usually I always say buy a size or two big and try to only get a vest ever 3+years, but an ER vest it going to be a little big on a DR ranger, and that DR vest is going to be tight vice versa. So eventually there is a growth and need for a new vest.

If they want it for sentimental reasons, or if there are little brothers in the line, sure keep it.

But when if they just want a larger vest and willing to trade back the old one, I'm leaning to a 1/2 price discount on the new vest. The outpost then can offer the old vest for 1/2 price also (assuming decent condition.)

As for the patches, generally I have found the boys/family just do a strip and re-sew.

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Post by cmdrPaul on June 13th 2014, 8:45 pm

Maybe a little off topic, but my AR's aren't really into wearing their vests. They think that they are 'too cool' for it I guess. Anybody have other ideas about displaying their merits?
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Post by Claymore on June 13th 2014, 9:17 pm

All of my guys have been "vest happy". My norm is that the Awards Vests are primarily worn for Awards Day. When we would do Color Guards, I would just have them wearing Uniform Shirts.

Paul, do you do the Ribbons with numerals? My guys are also checking each others' chests whenever they get into full uniform.

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Post by cmdrPaul on June 13th 2014, 9:25 pm

No, we have not been doing the Ribbons, just the normal patches. They get the Medal when they complete the yearly achievements (Gold falcon / hawk / eagle). My guys also just do it for awards day, but it does not seem to be an important thing for them.
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Post by Claymore on June 13th 2014, 11:11 pm

We do the ribbons with numerals on the Khakis.  The boys absolutely love it.  It's a little bit pricey at first, but gets more reasonable over the long haul.

I also try to take a formal photograph of each boy in his uniform with ribbons at least every year.  I make 2 copies, so I can send a photo of each boy to the parents, and we put one up on the Outpost "who-done-it?" board.

When a boy leaves Rangers under "Honorable Conditions" (notifies me a month or 2 that he is going to Youth Group or if his family moves to another church), I mount his ribbon bars on velvet in a frame & present them to the leaving Ranger.

If a boy just stops coming to Rangers, he doesn't get the presentation.  I do require some period of advance notice, if they are leaving voluntarily, because too often, we've made plans for a new program, purchase materials, then 4 or 5 boys decide that they're going somewhere else, and I'm left with $100.00 worth of materials going to waste.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on June 13th 2014, 11:45 pm

I like those cases you find in the US Medals catalog. I bought a large medal case once for a GMA in my old outpost in Potomac. It takes GPH 2+ years to approve a nice sharp looking GMA case but they can come out with fancy medallions, coins, and doodads in seemingly no time flat.

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Post by strods on June 15th 2014, 4:04 pm

RRCmdrBennett wrote:I like those cases you find in the US Medals catalog. I bought a large medal case once for a GMA in my old outpost in Potomac.  

I was going to suggest the Shadow box idea too. Or at least a piece of material you can sew (yes, sew) the badge on and have some sort of frame.
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Post by Mark Jones on June 15th 2014, 5:15 pm

I have mine in various card board boxes scattered around.  They over flow and I just add in a new card board box.  Them patches are multiplying.  They never have really did anything for me.  I just never had a puffed up enough chest to pin them on...grin!

I had to poke at you guys or I wouldn't be living right. GRIN!  

I lost my zeal for these things after they changed the program.  I do like the utility shirt.  I wear it on campouts and floats...one for use the other for accalades to me myself and I!!!!

I got so many of those District Outstanding Service Awards they are pileing up.  HA!  I wished I did care about those things.  Just don't.  Thanks bub is just about right.

We have a GMA plaque in our Ranger Building. It lists them all...some good some not so good..GRIN!


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Post by RRCmdrBennett on June 16th 2014, 9:32 pm

I have lost my zeal for most of that stuff too Mark. Nothing wrong with it as long as it shows you're passionate about Royal Rangers. Lately, my passion for Royal Rangers and section has dipped considerably.

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Post by joecool on June 16th 2014, 9:48 pm

RRCmdrBennett wrote: Lately, my passion for Royal Rangers and section has dipped considerably.  

Hang in there, Dan. Make Rangers work for you, instead of the other way around. It's been years since I lived by the RR rules as laid down by national. I tweak, adjust and sometimes ignore the stuff that comes out of Springfield. Not because I'm rebellious, but because the program needs to work with what I have. I'm a thousand miles from HQ, with an entirely different environment and resources at hand. Claymore will tell you how soldiers in the field need to adapt to the realities out in the field where they're at. Call it command decisions, if you like. And you're in command of your unit. I also don't get involved in district events, with the exception of the pow wow. I don't like their consistent lack of originality and organization. Good guys all, but I just don't go there. Rather than frustrate myself and the boys, we're like Merrill's Marauders. Deep behind enemy lines and carrying out God's mission...to reach, teach and keep.

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Post by Claymore on June 16th 2014, 11:20 pm

The Technical Term is "Decentralized Training".

(There, now. Doesn't that sound nice?)

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Post by Mark Jones on June 17th 2014, 7:33 am

My zeal for Rangers is stronger today than it ever has been. It's the patches and vests and the GMA pedistal that I never have been all that found of. I would rather have the testemony of others that say something like... remember that weekend we camped in that cave? Remember that trip down from from Over look? Remember that 4" rain. Remember that float where God unlocked your truck door? Those events and happenings are my "patches, vests, GMA substite".

I have had 3 calls this week from our local churchs in Royal Rangers getting ready for the CAC this Thursday and Friday. We have a great group of leaders that strive to be the best and to make these events the best. At one time I can remember having the same outlook about the camps and such... then after prayer and some gumption by the Holy Spirit I got in and started leading the right way. No fear in suggesting to others what would make camps better...no fear in telling others that what your doing isn't so good...GRIN! Yet it's in Love and they know it.

Rangers is deep in my heart. Go get em guys... and YES YOU ARE IN COMMAND OF YOUR BOYS...let the National guys say what they want..but it's you and what works that makes the difference.

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