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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by Claymore on September 29th 2013, 9:34 pm

Yes, but notice that their solution is not for the people to protect themselves in schools.

It's to have More Government in schools.

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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by RRCmdrBennett on September 29th 2013, 10:27 pm

Yes, I noticed that too. Pretty soon a cop at every corner sporting an AR-15...?  No offense to LEO's or former cops but they have their place. If they gain too much power they can easily become abusive (e.g. Hurricane Katrina).

All political issues we face to today fall into two one of two categories: centralized power vs. decentralized power.  Its not that the media, liberals, Leftist, communist, etc hate guns ohhhhh quite contrarily they LOVE GUNS under their CONTROL.  This was the same issue that lead to succession in 1860. It may happen again. We have counties in various States like California wanting to sucede from their own State.

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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by RRCmdrBennett on September 29th 2013, 11:08 pm

I mentioned earlier how surprised I was to see my little Super Center carry 5.56mm ammo. Today, I run by sporting goods to see the ammo and we now carry American Eagle 150 round value box in 5.56mm for $70. Save $8.53 over buying the equal amount of 20 round boxes. Looks like Wal-mart is embracing the MSR's again cause we never sold that caliber before in our little store.

I heard at our morning meeting our store is overriding layaway items that aren't normally eligible for layaway. Meaning it doesn't have to be just jewelry, electronics, toys, and select sporting goods items. We're laying away everything except food of course. I asked a manager if we could layaway ammo. She was going to ask the store manager. She wasn't sure since its regulated. Firearms are relegated even more than ammo and every gun shop usually has layaway for guns. I was thinking of laying away 3 - 150 round boxes of 5.56mm

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on October 2nd 2013, 12:57 am

I was checking my Legal Heat app and I noticed Ohio and Mississippi now reciprocate each other's permits.

Looks like Ohio's assembly is heating up with a debate on a House bill to expand castle doctrine to anywhere in the State. Basically, adopt statewide "Stand your Ground" laws. I guess Oberlin College won't be hosting Stevie Wonder again... lol! 

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Post by Claymore on October 2nd 2013, 2:08 pm

Yah, I meant to send Stevie a note informing him of our State's policy, too.

I'll lose a lot of sleep, knowing that he won't be coming to Town.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on October 2nd 2013, 5:35 pm

Some people joked and said his mgrs can tell him he's in whatever State he likes... J/k.

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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by RRCmdrBennett on October 11th 2013, 12:03 am

Does anyone own any New England Firearms H&R long guns? I just received a scope mounting rail from ebay. The screws that fill in the milled holes on the barrel are flat head but the screws in the rail mount are allen wrench type. Would you know what size allen wrench I need? I don't get why the filler screws are one type and rail mount has to be something odd like an allen wrench.


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Post by Claymore on October 11th 2013, 10:09 am

Asthetics.

You can properly torque an Allen-Head better without stripping it out. However, if you are using it with iron sights, the conventional screw looks better (look at 'most-all of the screws on your guns; they are slotted-type).

I have 2 H&R guns, but I cannot give you an answer, because the screws are under my scopes, and they are secured with Loc-Tite and Clear Silicon.

I just pulled out my $7.00 multi-Allen-Head tool from my Armorer's Box and found one that worked. It probably wouldn't be too much work to put one of the screws in a plastic bag, take it to work, and find an Allen Wrench in the tool section that fits.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on October 11th 2013, 5:49 pm

My father inlaw is going through his tools he'll prolly find one.

I guess allen wrench head be better in case you lost your hold on the screw head and your flathead screwdriver scratched your barrel.

I'm keeping an eye out for an H&R 12ga slug barrel. I have an action, stock, and forearm ready.

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Backdoor Gun Control.

Post by RRCmdrBennett on November 1st 2013, 12:59 am

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Subject: BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL:

More dictatorship and police state..........

Back Door Gun Control Moves Forward
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There are numerous alarming reasons why the US government and the military have been buying up all the ammo. Here’s one of them. Obama and the EPA just shut down the last lead smelting plant in the US. They raised the EPA regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply. You can own all the guns you want, but if you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck.

Remember when Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes? Welcome to it. Now, all domestic mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US. Not only will ammo now be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more. And ponder this… there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from a government entity instituting de facto ammo registration. So much for the Second Amendment. There has not been a peep about this in the major news outlets and it is done. With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China. More redistribution of wealth; more economic and liberty crippling of the US on tap.

The EPA (evil protection agency) had this to say:
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the company “made a business decision” to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act.

The Doe Run Co. announced last year that it had dropped plans to build a new lead processing facility in Herculaneum that would have used a new, cleaner lead production technology. The company cited the $100 million project as too financially risky.

The EPA is playing Mafioso I guess — we didn’t make them shut down, they made a business decision. In other words, they couldn’t pay the extortion, so the thugs shut them down. I’m pretty sure that Americans are getting ready to make their own business decision regarding the Marxists and I don’t think it will be pleasant. But Marxists will do or die and are doubling down on the destruction of energy in America, our way of life and the Constitution.

The smelting plant has known since 2010 this was coming. They couldn’t stop it and no one else rose up to stop it either. The business had been in production for 120 years and now goes the way of our auto industry.

The military’s obsession with ammo was related to security and supply. They knew this was coming too, so they bought up all they could get before the plug was pulled. Screw the average American. It’s as Chris Muir said, he’s not as worried about where the bullets will come from, as much as how the government will deliver them and I’m right there with him on that one.

So, back door gun control is moving forward and while we are all distracted with shiny stuff, our Second Amendment rights are just about gone. Obama is one Marxist dictator who is savvy at political chess. He has flanked the Second Amendment. Now it’s our move.

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Post by Claymore on November 1st 2013, 9:55 pm

Well, yes - but we can get around it.

Lead production in the U.S. has been under pressure for over a Generation.  I come from the Upper Mississippi River Lead Mining Region that produced a great amount of the lead used by the Union during the "Great War of Northern Aggression" 1860-1864.

Within 5 miles of my farm were the towns of "Lead Mine", "New Diggings", and Shullsburg (named after prospector Jesse Shulls).  Within 20 miles were "Mineral Point" and "Galena" (named after a type of lead). In fact, the "Wisconsin Badgers" were REALLY named after the early miners that spent winters in the mine shafts or homes burrowed into hillsides. Those miners were the original residents of the state, and called "Badgers".

Lead Mining was the greatest employer, leading Agriculture until about the Civil War, then following Agriculture until 1960's.  Pressure from the Department of Natural Resources made it unprofitable, and NONE of the mines have been in operation in the region since the 1970's.

About 60% of the lead that we use is recycled, and those plants are still in operation.  Most lead is used in Batteries; ammunition only accounts for about 4% to 6% of lead consumed.

Will this hurt?  Probably some.

But we will still be able to get materials; but it will be competing in a more expensive market.

I am currently sitting on about 300 pounds of lead; purchased it from local tire shops for 30 cents per pound.  If you offer that price for ALL of their scrap wheel weights (steel, zink, unsorted, with the clips) they will probably be happy to sell to you for that.

So if we must, we practice with low velocity rifles (.45 ACP, 45-70, muzzle-loading rifle & revolver) and save the jacketted stuff for when it's really needed.

Sort your wheel weights.  Sell the zink for scrap, throw away the steel, use the alloy weights with the clips for .45 ACP & 45-70, & use the soft pure lead with adhesive backs for your muzzle-loaders.

(Well, now I have another Class Subject for a meeting: "Sorting Lead Wheel Weights for Shooting".)

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on November 2nd 2013, 7:54 pm

Good to know all hope isn't lost.

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Post by Claymore on November 14th 2013, 8:40 pm

I just got back from the scrap yard.

Picked up 100 pounds of lead wheel weights for $40.00.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on November 14th 2013, 9:10 pm

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Post by Phillip Gross on November 15th 2013, 5:16 am

Being as I'm thin, where to carry has posed issues. I habitually tuck in shirts, at least my first shirt, so tucking in my waistband wasn't realistic unless there was cooler weather enabling me to wear additional layers (one good thing about cooler weather). I like my lc9, but found that I was dropping the derringer in my pocket more often than not because it was so small. Then one day I decided to put my lc9 in my waistband, right of center where I prefer, UNDER a tucked in shirt. Worked great. I can still get to it relatively quickly if I need it and it doesn't show. Now I take the lc9 all the time.
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Post by Mark Jones on January 2nd 2014, 11:48 am

Radio today. 12 year old with shotgun shoots 5 year old sister.

I thought wow. That is close to home. I have a 12 year old great nephew with a brand new shotgun with a 4 year old sister that lives about a mile away from this reported accident.
If I had a 12 year old that had a shot gun...I would have a trigger lock on it and I keep the key. Grin.
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Post by Phillip Gross on January 2nd 2014, 12:15 pm

I would say it was either a psychotic child, or an untrained child who did that. I grew up knowing where every gun and ammo in the house was. New what guns were capable of (training) and how to use them (training) and feared the discipline of my parents if I miss used them (training). I do the same thing with my own children.
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Post by ccm2361 on January 2nd 2014, 12:47 pm

agreed
Our kids know where the guns are & which ones are kept loaded. They know how to shoot & they do not touch them unless the bad guys are kicking in the door etc. They are allowed to touch or handle any gun, they MUST ask first & be supervised when they do it.

IMO The easiest way to prevent many of these shootings is to satisfy the kids curiosity (by letting the handle the guns) & teach what to do & not do with guns.

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Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 2nd 2014, 1:52 pm

Agreed, its curiousity and false media images from movies, games, and news that fuels kids idea of what guns are. Once had a staffer say he could run firearm safety in one night. I don't run it in 30 mins a recipe for disaster. I tell my boys I'm going to hammer safety so much they will be bored. I'm straight up about guns they are designed to kill things but can be used save lives when used properly and feed your family too. Many times I say if you don't follow the rules people DIE!

Trigger locks can be busted off easy. A cable lock through the acton is better as it needs bolt cutters to remove. I never disable my pistol. I lock my guns in a cabinet without trigger locks, action cables, and store the ammo in the same cabinet. It would be ludicrous to unlock two cabinets, remove trigger locks, remove cable lock, load magazine, insert mag, cock gun, and go take care of business. Any guns I'd give as a gift to a small child would remain in my cabinet.

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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by Mark Jones on January 2nd 2014, 4:44 pm

One my coeworkers had triplets. He now has twins. One of the triplets went over to a friends house and they were checking out the shot gun and he took a shot to the head and died on site.

I told my son. If any of your friends pull out a gun to show you don't say anything just get up and leave.

I would sure lock it down. One of the boys pulled his dads loaded guns out to show his buddies. Shuuuua..my dad can't know about this. HELLO!

My brother wanted me to hold a lever on a 22 that was jambing up when we was 15 and 16...it was jambing up and he is pretty good at fixing things and soon WE with a gun in the vice shot a hole into the side of the refrigerator out in the garage... Grin.. I still remember my brothers expression when he looked up at me and said why did you do that... I said... all I did was what you told me to do....GRIN!
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p.s. I still say I didn't do anything wrong...GRIN!
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 2nd 2014, 5:56 pm

I never leave a loaded gun unattended. If its loaded its holstered on my person. The rest are in my locked cabinet. I just don't see a point of putting trigger or cable locks on a gun thats already locked up. When I have kids in the house I will be getting a pin coded or biometric pistol safe to secure the pistol in the middle of the night. Right now I just leave on the night stand.

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Bourgeois Trapper 5/06, Free Trapper ?
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Post by Phillip Gross on January 26th 2014, 12:09 am

Finally broke down and picked up a shoulder holster rig for my 6906. I rarely ever carry it because I don't have many shirts long enough to always keep it covered when using the belt holster and it's too big to stuff inside, IMO. So I picked this up the other day. It's very functional for me allowing me to use it while camping/backpacking or dressing up. 
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Re: NRA and Conceal Carry Weapon Permit (CCW/OC)

Post by RRCmdrBennett on January 26th 2014, 12:15 am

Looks great. I need to get a pinkie mag plate for my compact mag for the XDm. I usually get two marks on my hand when I insert the compact it pinches my skin. I don't like my pinkie going underneath my XDm so I've been carrying it full extended mag. I know people will complain its full size so it sticks further out but I've never had trouble with it. Besides that I would like a iwb holster to conceal the barrel better when putting shirts over it.


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"Be Ready, It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark."

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Bourgeois Trapper 5/06, Free Trapper ?
Training Seminars/Camps:
LTC LMA 5/94, Ranger Basics 1/05, LTA LMA 5/05, NTC IL 5/09, WCO 10/09, ICS 4/10, RKTC 7/10, Ranger Essentials 8/10, NRMC 10/11, Training Academy? NEEC? JBIE?
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